Regina van Ahrendtsdorf

F, #6931, b. 11 May 1692
Father*Johann Andresen1 b. c 1654, d. c 1698
Mother*Lijsbeth Jans1 b. b 2 Sep 1663

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Last Edited13/09/2015
BirthRegina van Ahrendtsdorf was born before 11 May 1692 in de Caep de Goede Hoop.2
 
Marriage*She married Jacobùs van Eden, son of Jan Janse van Eeden and Maria Rousseau, before 1711.3
 

Family

Jacobùs van Eden b. 13 Feb 1692
Children
Names in the record, in publications, etc.An unknown date , the name of Regina was written in the record as Regina Christina Deetlof.4
19 April 1711, the name of Regina was written in the record as Regina Christina.5
24 July 1712, the name of Regina was written in the record as Regina Kristina.6
BaptismsRegina van Ahrendtsdorf was baptized on 11 May 1692 Nederduitsch Gereformeerde Kerk, Stellenbosch, de Caep de Goede Hoop. The baptism was witnessed by Sophia van den Tempel, Anna Sophia Bosch and Jan Stevensz Botma de Jonge. This witness has not been positively identified but Sophia van den Tempel and Anna Sophia Bosch is(are) potentially the correct individual(s.)7,8,1
Baptisms - WitnessRegina van Ahrendtsdorf witnessed the baptism of Katryn van Hoorn on 28 December 1710 Nederduitsch Gereformeerde Kerk, Stellenbosch, de Caep de Goede Hoop.9,10
NotesRegina van Ahrendtsdorf From: Richard Ball
Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Who was Regina Christina Deetlof?
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 20:02:29 +0100
References: <870kJoTH87260S26.1160939339@cmsweb26.cms.usa.net><005101c6f098$51a3eab0$6d00a8c0@vanq1jamufc58i>
In-Reply-To: <005101c6f098$51a3eab0$6d00a8c0@vanq1jamufc58i>

Hello Ian,

Sunday, October 15, 2006, 9:27:20 PM, you wrote:

IvZ> de Villiers/Pama has Jacobus van Eeden, second son of the
IvZ> Stamvader Jan Janse van Eeden married to Regina Christina
IvZ> Deetlof. This name or anything close to it (Detlef,
IvZ> Dietlef)does not appear in de Villiers/Pama until later in the
IvZ> 18th century.

I had a look at this problem by checking what records I have copies of
here.

First I checked the baptisms of the two children that De Villiers /
Pama lists for Jacobus van Eden and his wife named as Regina Christina
Deetlof.

Both baptisms give her name just as Regina Christina - no surname.

Church Register - Stellenbosch Congregation, Palmkronieke facsimile CD

Maria Lisabeth, d'Vader Jacobus van Eden, d'Moeder Regina Christina,
getuygen, Ary van Eden, met Maria Rossar, 19 April 1711

Katrina, d'Vader Jacobus van Eden, Moeder Regina Kristina,
getuygen Hendrik Loots met Lijsbeth Jansen, 24 July 1712

There does not seem to be any record of the marriage which presumably
took place about 1710 to judge from the baptismal date of the first
child. The marriage register of Drakenstein does not survive from this
period so there is nothing unusual in this.

To complicate matters further, the muster roll at the end of 1711
(VC49) lists them as:

Jacobus van Eeden & Regina Claasina van Arentsdorp

(this is of course a copy of a copy - see my notes here:

http://www.eggsa.org/transcriptions/monsterrollen/mr_intro.htm

But, a deceased estate account (boedelrekening) does exist for the
couple (Cape Archives, MOOC 13/1/1, 62, date 1715).

This lists the couple as:

wijlen Jacobus van Eeden en desselfs huijsvrouw Regi[na ]Jonkers,

the late Jacobus van Eeden and his wife Regina Jonkers

I checked further and Jan Andriessen, called de Jonker, was married to
Lijsbet or Elisabeth Jans. He died circa 1698 and she remarried
Hendrik Loots. You will notice that this couple are the witnesses at
the baptism of the second child of Jacobus van Eden and Regina
Christina.

This seems to indicate pretty surely that Regina was the daughter of
Jan de Jonker.

I have put the family with the evidence I collected here:

http://www.ballfamilyrecords.co.uk/lombard/I405.html


Cheers,

Richard
--
Richard Ball,
Norfolk, England

http://www.ballfamilyrecords.co.uk
richard.ball@ballfamilyrecords.co.uk.

Citations

  1. [S204] Dr. J. Hoge, Personalia of the Germans at the Cape, 1652-1806, Archives Year Book for South African History (Cape Town: Government Printer, Union of South Africa, 1946), pg. 7. Hereinafter cited as Personalia.
  2. [S397] NGK G1 1/1, Nederduitsch Gereformeerde Kerk, Kerken Boek (Bapt.), 1665-1695: 1692
    Den 11 Maij aen Stellenbosch een kint gedoopt waer van vader is Jan de
    Jonker, de moeder Elisabeth, als ghetuijghe stonden Jan Stevenz[e]
    Botma, ende Sophia van der Bijl, is genaemt Regina., transcribed by Richard Ball, Norfolk, England, (May 2006), Genealogical Society of South Africa, eGSSA Branch http://www.eggsa.org/. Hereinafter cited as Nederduitsch Gereformeerde Kerk, Kerken Boek (Bapt.).
  3. [S325] Lorna Newcomb and Ockert Malan, compilers, Annale van Nederduits Gereformeerde Moedergemeente Stellenbosch No 1.., CD-ROM (Stellenbosch) Die Genootskap vir die Kerkversameling, 2004 0-9584832-1-3), Baptism Register. Hereinafter cited as Palmkronieke I Baptisms.
  4. [S151] J.A. Heese & R.T.J. Lombard, South African Genealogies 2 D-G (Pretoria, South Africa: Human Science Research Council, 1989), p.166 - This name appears in some published genealogies such as this source, but the origins are unknown.. Hereinafter cited as S.A. Genealogies 2 D-G.
  5. [S325] Baptism Register, Palmkronieke I Baptisms, Maria Lisabeth, d'Vader Jacobùs van Eden, d'Moeder Regina Christina, getùygen, Ary van Eden, met Maria Rossar, 19 Appril 1711.
  6. [S325] Baptism Register, Palmkronieke I Baptisms, Katrina, d'Vader Jacobus van Eden, Moeder Regina Kristina, getuygen Hendrik Loots met Lijsbeth Jansen, 24 July 1712.
  7. [S557] NGK Baptism Records Cape Town 1700-1750: Den 11 Maij [1692] aen Stellenbosch een kint gedoopt waer van vader is Jan de Jonker, de moeder Elisabeth, als ghetuijghe stonden Jan Stevenz[e] Botma, ende Sophia van der Bijl, is genaemt Regina., (1700-1750), UNISA Library, Pretoria. Hereinafter cited as NGK Baptism Records Cape Town 1700-1750.
  8. [S325] Baptism Register, Palmkronieke I Baptisms, Lorna:
    Steven Jansz Botma het twee seuns met die naam Jan gehad. Jan Stevens de Oude gebore in Europa, is op 22.2.1682 met Christina Stants van Giesendam getroud en het in die Kaap gewoon. Jan Stevensz de Jonge =23.7.1670 x Christina de Bruin en boer op Vredenburg, in de Moddergat. Hier word miskien na Jan de Jonge verwys omdat hy ln die omgewing gewoon het.

    The second witness at this baptism was named as Sophia van der Byl, and in a comment Lorna writes:
    Sy was of Sophia van den Tempel vrou van Gerrit van der Byl of Anna Sophia Bos vrou Pieter van der Byl (Gerrit se seun) wie soms ook Sophia genoem word.
  9. [S325] Baptism Register, Palmkronieke I Baptisms, Katryn, d'Vader Robbert Jans, moeder Katryn Cornelisz, getùyge Regina Arensdorp 28e Xbr 1710.
  10. [S331] Webpage Ball Family Records (www.ballfamilyrecords.co.uk) "http://www.ballfamilyrecords.co.uk/robberts/I013.html."
 

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